Tell me your idols
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I
(ileDKB)
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why not replace it by Kurt Angle??? anyone in favour of him???
if ya idolize him, better write his name in is chinese characters, or at least: KONG MING.
i think he's quite great! but, the stories about him, they just simply don't sound REAL! a person cannot be that good, agree???
as for my idol, if it's not me myself
then i don't idolize any1 hehe just kidding! what do you think about.... gandalf the white? or aragorn? or, even SAURON? hehhebtw, i don't think putin and clinton is that great comparing to rasputin, stalin or hitler. anyway, if you talk about the leaders (political/religious), what do you think about the POLE? what do you think about..... Jesus? and what do you think about... about... what's his name, i've forgotten already, but he's the greatest king of babylonian kingdom once upon a time.
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(ileDKB)
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quite agree with this.
i don't care whether i'm a kid or not, as long as i'll be myself. thanks for comment.
unfortunately, "killers", as you call them, have always been the greater ones comparing to "good-buddies". they're really good strategists, and that's the reason why i say we should idolize them. they grew to power from just simple man, with 2 bare hands and nothing else, and even scared the whole world at least once. on other hand, i don't idolize a person if he's a "good-hero" who save the lives of thousands... but in fact was just lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
Vũ Đàm Linh
(Mazerlin)
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little Long đã viết:
Dear, I myself idolize one of the most cruel killers on Earth
. Still, we are just kids ignorant of wars and poverty. We are awed by the greatness of such notorious leaders. However, if you had been a Jew or Russian half century ago, would you idolize these 'killers'???
Well, I only wrote that Clinton and Putin are good, but did not compare them with anyone else. Still, I think Putin is just a new kid on the block. This kind of leaders can do next to nothing, and they are certainly manipulated by someone behind the scenes. Anyway, they are the symbol of reform
, something for the public to look at. Who is your "killer" then?
Nguyễn Mai Hương
(complicated)
New Member
Hey you! You say you like Putin, Kurt Coban, or smt named Caeser. But how can you tell about them or just things everyone noes? They are famous, yes. They are pretty or handsome, yes. They are talented, may be yes. But do they noe you? Will they share with you depression and sorrow? Do they teach you a lesson? I think IDOL should be any person around us. May be our parents, may be our friends, may be siblings or neighbours etc.
Vũ Đàm Linh
(Mazerlin)
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Little lady, there are many ways to define an idol. You want someone to share your feelings? That's ok. But I think it's just a friend. As for me, idols are whom you look up to, so they MUST be great.
Eh, Caesar was not handsome, neither is Putin.
And please, write good English, dear.
As for me, idols are whom you look up to, so they MUST be great.Eh, Caesar was not handsome, neither is Putin.
And please, write good English, dear.
Vũ Đàm Linh đã viết:And please, write good English, dear.
Whaddya mean???
Sorry for being away for so long, personal reasons
. Long's ideas were quite agreeable, killers, esp mass killers are usually great, and their ability to challenge and shake the world's peace is more than enough to you to idolise them... but sometimes good heroes can be good, too, not all of them were Tran Hai Long đã viết:
by pure luck, but through lots of calculations and planning.... By the way, some of Khong Minh's (i prefer to write it this way but Long, thx anyway...
) story may not sound undeniably real but majority of them are FACTS and he was a real superb strategist... i agree with Dam Linh, if one is to be your idol, he should be great, friends or ppl around u (there's always exeptions, of course) are not... eh... suitable, in my opi... they's rather be your confidant...To Dam Linh: Your language is so trim, (sorry for the excess use of this word
) with all those "big-and-great" meanings... it makes me... dizzy... ya noe wat i mean...
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Uhm, I don't think we should mock each other because of the way we use our English. There are good English speakers and not-so-good English speakers (including me) who want to join in this club. Talking about others' English would discourage them from expressing their viewpoints. Mistakes are something everybody makes, right?
On the use of slangs, I believe you should make it up to the members. I myself prefer to use "formal" English in this board, since I am already speaking a lot of slangs everyday at school ( those damned American students hehe j/k ). Moreover, using slangs and "nonstandard" English might have a bad influence on those who are trying to study for tests including TOEFL and SAT.
Anyway, keep up the good work, Linh.
On the use of slangs, I believe you should make it up to the members. I myself prefer to use "formal" English in this board, since I am already speaking a lot of slangs everyday at school (
those damned American students hehe j/k ). Moreover, using slangs and "nonstandard" English might have a bad influence on those who are trying to study for tests including TOEFL and SAT.Anyway, keep up the good work, Linh.
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Vũ Đàm Linh
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Dao Binh đã viết:
You mizunderstud<---- bad Engligh
Do you understand? <---- good English
I just suggest avoiding slang and improper pronounciation let alone mistakes ( for I make loads
)[quote-Dao Binh]
To Dam Linh: Your language is so trim, (sorry for the excess use of this word
) with all those "big-and-great" meanings... it makes me... dizzy... ya noe wat i mean... [/quote]Eh, I don't know what you mean
. I have looked up in a very good dictionary and it says:If there is no other meanings of this word, what's the problem???? Why are you confused??? Please explain to me. Thank in advance!
Maybe my English is 'strange', too wordy or too curt.
. I will try to improve it.]Viet Hung đã viết:
Thank you for a pat on my back, colleague
Trim is one of those Singlish words (for more information, feel free to ask from Hai Long )... it means difficult or hard to comprehend...
eh... about my idol, i've looked up on Khong Minh from tonnes of different documents, and he's a real person (though one may find his stories hard to believe (and i was one of them) but actually, there are many facts that we must... how to say it... respect...)...
Having seen The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (i'm a big fan of the book), you must have found out how difficult it was to kill 10,000 soldiers (that is, even when you have a Wizard, an Elf, a superb Ranger, and a Dwarf on your side...)... look how he killed 830,000 ppl in The Flaming Wall (also known as Xich Bich), with him alone and only ordinary humans on his side... That's about it, he's so COOL and i idolise him for that... any ideas???
)... it means difficult or hard to comprehend...eh... about my idol, i've looked up on Khong Minh from tonnes of different documents, and he's a real person (though one may find his stories hard to believe (and i was one of them
) but actually, there are many facts that we must... how to say it... respect...)...Having seen The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (i'm a big fan of the book
), you must have found out how difficult it was to kill 10,000 soldiers (that is, even when you have a Wizard, an Elf, a superb Ranger, and a Dwarf on your side...)... look how he killed 830,000 ppl in The Flaming Wall (also known as Xich Bich), with him alone and only ordinary humans on his side... That's about it, he's so COOL and i idolise him for that... any ideas???
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(ileDKB)
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huhuh yesterday i composed this take very long, but then when i posted it, i was logged out, and lost the whole thing. too frustrated, now then i recompose it again.
. anyway, ain't you trying to prove that Kong Ming was a killer also? Wow, he was accounted for killing up to almost a mil. people in just a battle!!! Great boy he was!!! As for so-called-big Đàm Linh, can Kong Ming be my killer???
). as for what you define as good english, you should call it correct spelling, not improper pronounciation or slang or anything else.
THL
excuse me, they don't kill for fun. hitler actually did not order the massacre of the jews, but he did not stop his followers from doing so. and stalin did not order to kill anyone who showed no opposition towards him. anyway, i never did say i idolized them, just said they were great, suggested their names to see if anyone does idolize them.
excuse me again, hitler and stalin did bring about great reforms to the collapsed economics of Germany and Russia respectively at their times.
hahah first of all, i don't see that you're so big, Đào Bình
. anyway, ain't you trying to prove that Kong Ming was a killer also? Wow, he was accounted for killing up to almost a mil. people in just a battle!!! Great boy he was!!! As for so-called-big Đàm Linh, can Kong Ming be my killer???alright, different persons have different views and different definitions of the word "idol". you made a point there, i don't deny it. but you don't ask other to think likewise.
To Dam Linh: Your language is so trim, (sorry for the excess use of this word
are you trying to ask people to leave this board, Đàm Linh??? our English skill is not perfect, so don't ask other people to write good english. I agree with Đào Bình that your language is so trim (this is a singlish wordy which i think can be summarized in the word "abstract". and don't try to check the meaning in an US dictionary like encarta. try find a singaporean one, and you may find the word
). as for what you define as good english, you should call it correct spelling, not improper pronounciation or slang or anything else.ya, something like "abstract", right? but don't feel free to ask me further. i'm no good at this kinda words. and, Đào Bình, feel free to STOP USING those words, or otherwise, less people will understand or will wanna understand you (in fact, i think i'm the only one who understand the word "trim" here.)
THL
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Vũ Đàm Linh
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Sure my English is too abstract . That's why you misunderstand my many of my points
. Some sources state that he wanted to advance in military rank by doing so. Stalin was no doubt a mass killer. History is written by the winners (sorry to use big words again), so we cannot know exactly what happened.
. I only wrote about Putin as a president with little real power to change anything. I do agree with you about what Hitler and Stalin did to their countries, even in the end they lelf behind shattered nations.
I am sorry for anther misunderstanding. I do not know how to explain
I only hope that we write correct spelling in this board, because speaking English is different from written one. I have visited some UK forums where they use nearly no slangs, so why do we? Still, it's ok if we use in our posts, as forums are just like meeting place, right?
Puh, thank you very much for your advice on my English. I will try to cut down on unnecessary words, and put my opinions straight forward
Maybe, I should start to learn some Singlish.
. That's why you misunderstand my many of my pointsWell, well I do not know where you get these facts. As far as I know, Hitler from his youth hated the Jews and tried to eliminate oops sorry kill them
. Some sources state that he wanted to advance in military rank by doing so. Stalin was no doubt a mass killer. History is written by the winners (sorry to use big words again), so we cannot know exactly what happened. Trích dẫn:
Who is your "killer" then?
Just want to mention your idol.
Excuse me too for I don't know why you quoted these to say those
. I only wrote about Putin as a president with little real power to change anything. I do agree with you about what Hitler and Stalin did to their countries, even in the end they lelf behind shattered nations.I am sorry for anther misunderstanding. I do not know how to explain
I only hope that we write correct spelling in this board, because speaking English is different from written one. I have visited some UK forums where they use nearly no slangs
, so why do we? Still, it's ok if we use in our posts, as forums are just like meeting place, right?Puh, thank you very much for your advice on my English. I will try to cut down on unnecessary words, and put my opinions straight forward
Maybe, I should start to learn some Singlish.
Đặng Hoàng Vũ
(Heyi)
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About Kong Ming
1. Cao Cao did not have 830000 soldiers in Chi Bi, the figure was grossly exaggerated.
2. There are different accounts of who actually defeated Cao Cao at Chi Bi, with the most commonly believed one crediting the victory to Zhou Yu. None of them recorded Kong Ming as the brain behind the battle.
3. It is widely believed now that the historical Kong Ming was mainly a politician/civil administrator, rather than a military strategist. A lot of his victories in the novel were historically due to Liu Bei himself(!)
1. Cao Cao did not have 830000 soldiers in Chi Bi, the figure was grossly exaggerated.
2. There are different accounts of who actually defeated Cao Cao at Chi Bi, with the most commonly believed one crediting the victory to Zhou Yu. None of them recorded Kong Ming as the brain behind the battle.
3. It is widely believed now that the historical Kong Ming was mainly a politician/civil administrator, rather than a military strategist. A lot of his victories in the novel were historically due to Liu Bei himself(!)
hey!!! dun demean my idol!!! i'm in short of time and can not quote up sth to retaliate for now... anyway... even if u r correct (which is highly unlikely , my idol can still be the Khong Minh in the book ... so this is settled ...
Linh, anyone has their own style, and there should be no reason for ya to be upset about it... And don't u ever try to learn Singlish... actually, a bit of written Singlish should be no problem... but don't try to learn to speak from them (most of them), i'm sure all of ya noe why...
Well, about Hitler and Stalin, it's true that u learn about them from different points of view in VN and S'pore (i dun noe 'bout this in other countries) but there are still differences btw wat i noe and what u said Long... and remember i'm His CORED scared??? )...
i think that should do it, other stuff u guys sure will make them up fine (and don't quarrel, that's not a vẻy nice sight to see (i dun recall where i saw those)) enjoy
i'm in short of time and can not quote up sth to retaliate for now... anyway... even if u r correct (which is highly unlikely , my idol can still be the Khong Minh in the book ... so this is settled ...Linh, anyone has their own style, and there should be no reason for ya to be upset about it... And don't u ever try to learn Singlish... actually, a bit of written Singlish should be no problem... but don't try to learn to speak from them (most of them), i'm sure all of ya noe why...
Well, about Hitler and Stalin, it's true that u learn about them from different points of view in VN and S'pore (i dun noe 'bout this in other countries) but there are still differences btw wat i noe and what u said Long... and remember i'm His CORE
D scared??? )...i think that should do it, other stuff u guys sure will make them up fine (and don't quarrel, that's not a vẻy nice sight to see (i dun recall where i saw those)) enjoy
I
(ileDKB)
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we are we, UK people are UK people. there's no similarity. btw, if you surf the forums of all the poets, playwrights or book authors, or even something so-called languagists, do you expect them to use slangs or proper beautiful english? don't expect us to do the same, right? we can just try our best to imitate them, but we cannot be as good in the language as they are.
first of all, if you don't go to singapore, don't ever try to break your english with singlish wordings and pronounciation. that's no good, no good at all! there's no reason for adding those special special words like "trim", "lah", "loh" and in the end, you'll have to explain the meanings to your audience. and to Dao Binh, i don't know why you say "don't try to learn to speak from them (most of them)" hehe. don't you be so sure that all of us here know why
? don't tell me whoever got to this forum has at least been once in singapore or spoken to singaporean who can speak using the true meaning of SINGLISH.agree that we learn about them at different points of view. and i cannot deny that i agree that there might be differences between what you know and what i said. some teachers show their opinion, esp. after they had some research (not research to get a PhD or to get a new technique of doing things
) on the subject. my teacher told me a bit of those that she knows. and some of those are what you've not heard of. so don't you try to argue with me about what i said?good work. where do you get all these info? I think i wanna take a look, coz' i'm just simply interested. i'm not trying to mock you or anything, and i'm really really sorry if my statements have any implications of that.
THL
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Those are what I gathered from Internet forums on Three Kingdoms. They also have translations of several parts of San Guo Zhi - the official historical document, as opposed to the novel. Try kongming.net - it is a good site. If you can read Chinese (which I can't ), you can even find the whole book, plus other official documents on the 3K era from Chinese sites. For English sources, try searching for some works by Dr. Rafe de Crespigny, one of the leading Western scholars on Three Kingdoms.
), you can even find the whole book, plus other official documents on the 3K era from Chinese sites. For English sources, try searching for some works by Dr. Rafe de Crespigny, one of the leading Western scholars on Three Kingdoms.