Studying American English--->not so difficult to find a good place!

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Hi guys , ! If any of you has the ambition to study abroad , i wanna give u an advice : build the background first , and then u can develope it as much as u can !
A lot of students now hv a tendency to put the words into their mind stupidly , i mean they buy lots of books and tape , they think that self -study with the stuff is the best way for them , even to save money . I never refuse that self-study is very important , but the matter is most of them have no pabric at all. They OVERESTIMATE themselves .
Some guys said that human ability has no define , i am sure u r wrong . U only can reach the thing u want if u do it the right way .
On the other hand , many guys go to the popular E center to study some kind of " popular knowledge " . They dont focus on anything , just crash into the General English without hesitation ,without thinking .Do you guys think that is the good way ?????? ...?/?/???

When you guys study there , do u think that is worthy to the money u have to pay ?After 3 , or even 6 months studying General English , i cannot master anything , the only thing u grasp from it is just the extremly casual knowledge .
I know lots of student after finishing the course for 6 moths in some kind of E center like Apollo, Langguage Link , or Oxford , they just only can say : Hello , My name is so and so .... How r u .... Goodbye ... Or if they wanna say something , they hv to spend lots of time thinking what words should be used and that is quite funny. Why ?
THE ANSWER IS they r just taught English as the Foreign Language , not the Second Language , they know the words ., but dont know how to use , the can read out loud in E , but they cannot think in E .
i dont wanna show off , but just after 3 weeks i study in X( the best place to study E ) , My speaking and listening skills are absolutely good . Even better than lots of guy who did get the certificate from famous centers .YOu guys , do u know why ? because i am taught not what to do but how to think .
When i study there , i am not Vietnamese any more , just because i think in E , not in Vietnamese at all . Even within the students here , we chit chat , gossip , attack together in E . Each student have an English name and stay there as if being in American .WE even can go there out of the class time , just to talk or gossip to each other . That is a kind of kingdom for us , for American English students, the real teenagers _ smart active and creative!!


If u r from 13- 19 , and u love American English , why dont u join us ? even if u just wanna talk and get information , u are welcome .'Cos I have studied there and my purpose is to get high scores at Toeflt test and SAT test to study abroad.I find this one is so cool and different.And it is very helpful esp for people wanna study abroad in US or Canada.There I have learnt about listening, speaking, writing, reading, But not General English at all

. I think we have sudy enough grammar at school .So this is so perfect.Although the price is so expensive but the quality is superb.We study in a very good condition which is very professional with an intructor and TAs(teaching assitants)U might wonder 'bout the word TA who are they?They are just in the same age with us,they are friendly and of course they are all native American.We have very good material for student like CD,books...Moreover ,we always celebrate event like Christmas party,New year party . And Party in American way is held every 2 weeks .
SO COOL , RIGHT ?


I f any of u wanna get information about this place , i would be very happy and i will be eager to help you .
WE can consider another centers the department store and consider our place is a shop , high -quality shop .
We would help you build your own background and creat your own style . E will be your second language so you can think in English as in Vietnamese , nothiing cooler , right ?
Make sure that u r not playing joke or just calling us for fun , i just only left my email add here . Dont hesitate to send email to me : [email protected]. That would be great to be your classmate ...

I am very happy to help Vietnamese students studying English well . My name is Lauren , and i hope that everyone who loves English can find the best place to study ...Thanks a lot
 
Why do I have the feeling that the above post (again!) is a disguised advertisement for this Neo-I-forgot-its-exact-name company :-/ If it is, really, your PR work needs a LOT of improvement. Sigh, where's the good, old subtlety..

Anyway, maybe this text can spark some discussion about learning centers in Hanoi - their quality, use + (sometimes forceful) penetration into our school lives :p

Laura, thank you for the in-depth analysis of English students' weaknesses. If you don't mind, could you please elaborate on the difference between established institutions such as Apollo, British Council, Oxford, etc. and the place you are talking of? So far, we've only read about the gap in price + results. What do you think brings about these dissimilarities.
 
I agree with Hong Nhung. I would like to know more about the institution or company that you mentioned above. I am looking for a good place to send my sister there right now.
Also, I understand that the environment is really important because it will help you to improve your communication skill (i.e think straight in English when you are talking.)
But if it is the case, why don't those who already knew English try to contact international school in Ha Noi and ask for some community service. You guys can volunteer to work there for free, but you will be able to practice your English in return....

rr@
 
I really do not believe that one can think in english ("as in Vietnamese") as long as he/she is still surounded by a vietnamese environment e.g living in VN !!! :) If someone can, it's just about "general english" too.
What i've observed from those vietnamese people having migrated to Aus (living and studying in a nearly totally english environment) is that unless they come to Aus when they're under 10-12 yrs old, they can never
speak english as well as they...speak vietnamese.
Also I think being good at general, everyday-english is a very 1st step to build up one's english skill, esp. for those "from 13- 19". Then you can base on that to develop further or academic languaguage knowledge.
 
Great points, Lauren! Keep posting more about the place you mentioned!

Cheers,

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Hi guys , ! If any of you has the ambition to study abroad , i wanna give u an advice : build the background first , and then u can develope it as much as u can !
A lot of students now hv a tendency to put the words into their mind stupidly , i mean they buy lots of books and tape , they think that self -study with the stuff is the best way for them , even to save money . I never refuse that self-study is very important , but the matter is most of them have no pabric at all. They OVERESTIMATE themselves .
Some guys said that human ability has no define , i am sure u r wrong . U only can reach the thing u want if u do it the right way .
On the other hand , many guys go to the popular E center to study some kind of " popular knowledge " . They dont focus on anything , just crash into the General English without hesitation ,without thinking .Do you guys think that is the good way ?????? ...?/?/???

When you guys study there , do u think that is worthy to the money u have to pay ?After 3 , or even 6 months studying General English , i cannot master anything , the only thing u grasp from it is just the extremly casual knowledge .
I know lots of student after finishing the course for 6 moths in some kind of E center like Apollo, Langguage Link , or Oxford , they just only can say : Hello , My name is so and so .... How r u .... Goodbye ... Or if they wanna say something , they hv to spend lots of time thinking what words should be used and that is quite funny. Why ?
THE ANSWER IS they r just taught English as the Foreign Language , not the Second Language , they know the words ., but dont know how to use , the can read out loud in E , but they cannot think in E .
i dont wanna show off , but just after 3 weeks i study in X( the best place to study E ) , My speaking and listening skills are absolutely good . Even better than lots of guy who did get the certificate from famous centers .YOu guys , do u know why ? because i am taught not what to do but how to think .
When i study there , i am not Vietnamese any more , just because i think in E , not in Vietnamese at all . Even within the students here , we chit chat , gossip , attack together in E . Each student have an English name and stay there as if being in American .WE even can go there out of the class time , just to talk or gossip to each other . That is a kind of kingdom for us , for American English students, the real teenagers _ smart active and creative!!


If u r from 13- 19 , and u love American English , why dont u join us ? even if u just wanna talk and get information , u are welcome .'Cos I have studied there and my purpose is to get high scores at Toeflt test and SAT test to study abroad.I find this one is so cool and different.And it is very helpful esp for people wanna study abroad in US or Canada.There I have learnt about listening, speaking, writing, reading, But not General English at all

. I think we have sudy enough grammar at school .So this is so perfect.Although the price is so expensive but the quality is superb.We study in a very good condition which is very professional with an intructor and TAs(teaching assitants)U might wonder 'bout the word TA who are they?They are just in the same age with us,they are friendly and of course they are all native American.We have very good material for student like CD,books...Moreover ,we always celebrate event like Christmas party,New year party . And Party in American way is held every 2 weeks .
SO COOL , RIGHT ?


I f any of u wanna get information about this place , i would be very happy and i will be eager to help you .
WE can consider another centers the department store and consider our place is a shop , high -quality shop .
We would help you build your own background and creat your own style . E will be your second language so you can think in English as in Vietnamese , nothiing cooler , right ?
Make sure that u r not playing joke or just calling us for fun , i just only left my email add here . Dont hesitate to send email to me : [email protected]. That would be great to be your classmate ...

I am very happy to help Vietnamese students studying English well . My name is Lauren , and i hope that everyone who loves English can find the best place to study ...Thanks a lot
 
Bwahaha this guy is definitely NOT the marketing guy before. At least the other guy used proper English.
If you want to advertise your English center, set an example first! ;)
 
Come on bro Vu, she is Vietnamese and is only 15 years old.:lol:
 
Didn't want to be bitchy, but I dislike out-of-place ads. :D
 
Watch yourself, Vu! Don't be too impolite here, boy! She's just a young girl.

Vu Lam
 
Sorry but I'm not interested in a flame war right now :p Got better things to do.
 
Actually, I don't really trust any of those centers in Vietnam much. They all seem the same.
I have already read that topic on ttvnol a while ago but don't you think it is a bit fishy that they would not tell us the actual place?
 
I think it's good to practice English with native people or people who live in countries that speak English. However, it doesn't mean that those people who don't have opportunities to do that can't speak or understand English well. One needs to be patient to learn English.
Oh well, I don't trust English centers anymore because It seems like the centers tend to hide unprofessional teachers for a cheaper cost.

rr@
 
Tran Hong Ha đã viết:
Oh well, I don't trust English centers anymore because It seems like the centers tend to hide unprofessional teachers for a cheaper cost.

rr@

What do you really mean by "hide unprofessional teachers"? I guess you did mean "hire unprofessional teachers" didn't you?

Anyway, I found this topic which was posted by britsmoon on ttvnol.com rather interesting. I check this link http://photos.yahoo.com/accentclinic and I was quite impressed!

Web surfer
 
Thanh Huong, Dieu Huong, Nguyet ANh, Nhu Quynh, familar faces, haha...
 
nguyen quynh my đã viết:
hold on...1 really cute guy... email+info appreciated :)

Hehe, I saw a lot of cute boys there! Which boy is the "really cute guy", anyway?

Web surfer
 
Sis My, my pics on the net? really? let me check it.
 
ops....my bad... hichic.... so embarrasing...and yes, I mean "hire"....
sorry all.... :)
Nobody is perfect :p

rr@
 
neo system again??? Gosh! I have never attended that center (except for some potluck parties ;) )

Visit Neo, meet the CEO and u guys will know how much a VNese can earn when coming back from the US.
200 000 VND for 1 and a half hour with a VNese teacher.. Oh, thanks! Not this time, sir!
 
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