Trần Anh Dũng
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US war with Iraq, YOU CARE?
I'm posting a poll
I'm posting a poll
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World War on Terrorism-do YOU care?
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Nguyễn Đức
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This is an interesting article, I hope it does not violate any rules about political posting here.
WHAT ARE WE DOING?
WHERE IS LIBERTY? WHERE IS FREEDOM?
WHERE IS JUSTICE? WHERE IS TRUTH?
Not in the United States of America (land of the free).
Not in the United Kingdom (Land of Hope and Glory).
Not in the Western World.
Not in the Third world.
A great Shadow of fear has been drawn over the whole world and we have all lost our freedom.
No individual in the western world dare to speak out against the atrocity recently inflicted on the people of Afghanistan (never mind anyone from a third world country).
We have been told we are either for them or against them, there is no neutrality, no sitting on the fence and no alternative view to be held.
So most dare not speak for fear of being branded on the side of the terrorists.
Where is our free will? Where is our freedom to think how we choose?
It has all gone to the global dictators of the war against terrorism.
If we speak out against this wholesale destruction, we are to be classed as terrorists.
Since the atrocity of the 11th of September, on a daily basis every American Citizen has been subjected to wave after wave of fear, of threats from anthrax, of suicide bombers, a million people are gearing up to invade and destroy America with terrorism. Who Says this? The White House of course, (people who live in fear do not think straight, are easily controlled and are more ready to except what they are told without question).
Russia has tried to take Afghanistan and has suffered great casualties in the last three decades.
Why do they want to own this remote, desolate land?
The answer is very simple indeed, for Afghanistan, one of the undeveloped countries of the world is rich in mineral and ore deposits, the very raw materials, which make the wealth and power of the multinational companies, which control the world.
The world today is running out of these minerals and raw material resources and within the next 50 years the supply will be exhausted, so this fact alone makes Afghanistan one of the most important pawns in the game of world domination which is played by the multinational companies and the controlling Cabal.
Russia could not subdue her by normal military means and America could not control her with money (for she did not have a national debt).
It is the people who control the Countries debts, these are the people who today control the world, it is they who decide who is to become the next Prime Minster or President, any country which does not conform does not receive the money to survive.
We the most advanced nations in the world, using the most advanced
technology waged a war against terrorism, we believed what we were told (that the perpetrators of the 11th of September were supported by the government of Afghanistan), forces were mobilized and sides within Afghanistan were taken. Defense lines were drawn up and the protectors of the government took to the trenches in there thousands to defend their country from the invaders (this is us). The Unites States backed by the United Kingdom. WE invaded their country.
Then it started, massive bombings from miles high, gigantic explosions shook our Mother Earth as modern death rained down on the defenders of their faith in their own Country.
They had no means to fight back and no weapons to reach the planes,
they had nowhere to go, their movements were being observed from satellites and lookouts, only death and destruction was all around. There was no chance to surrender, only to die.
This is not war, it is certainly not humane, this is murder and genocide!
The few that survived were rounded up and taken to camps where the genocide continued, these prisoners were wiped out to the last man.
The few who were captured with witnesses present were sent to a destination away from the press, where they could not be interviewed, where they could be kept isolated from all humane treatment. No telephone calls to relations, no solicitors to speak too, no journalists to tell their story, no rights whatsoever. Were these men and women practicing terrorists? No! Did many if any ever leave Afghanistan? No!
This genocide has not been initiated by some third world despotic dictator but by the leader of the free world (black is white & white is black) Fraternity, Liberty and Equality (hardly!).
The terrorists who caused the planes to crash on the 11th of September, died in the planes. Not these poor helpless, near stone-age people, who just happen to live on land that is mineral rich.
Let us look at what else has happened - from a different point of view.
On the 11th of September before the planes hit the twin towers Wall Street had already crashed to its lowest figure for a considerable time. The reality of the Stock Market double-dealings was beginning to come to light.
The wave of Sympathy from all over the globe cushioned the effect on the worlds markets (people were prepared to give, in their concern for the catastrophe).
So now we stand back and look at what has happened, and how things actually are. America has been hit by a Catastrophe, 3000 dead.
The incredible reaction destroyed the Taliban and America now controls, No, OWNS Afghanistan with no opposition, no potential guerrillas and all possible future opposition now murdered, (without any of the problems which Russia had experienced). America’s long term might has been assured as the worlds leading nation, with most reserves of ores and minerals. No one dare speak against the might of the only superpower, a major financial crisis has been averted and it only cost 3000 lives.
So who has gained? Certainly not Bin Laden and certainly not the Taliban.
Only America and the controlling cabal has gained, the whole world has lost its freedom. The anti terrorism laws in the U.K were rushed through while we were all watching football or celebrating the Queens Jubilee. They have been classed as illegal; they have taken our freedom away! The same has happened in the U S A.
So what will happen next?
Running out of Oil? Sadam’s got plenty; unfortunately he doesn’t have a national debt so we cannot get it by financing them.
How can we get hold of it? Yes! I’ve got it, lets play the same card, lets call him a terrorist and say he is making weapons of mass destruction. No one can check this can they? The UN inspectors are our men, so lets do it.
We can instill fear in the World with our military might while we get exactly what we want.
This is what is really going on now.
A NOTE FOR THE EDITOR
You are just as responsible for this mass death and destruction as the actual perpetrators, for years your papers have not printed the truth of these events.
You have printed total and utter lies as facts, visits by your own proprietors and controllers to the meetings of the Global elites have not been published, we have allowed our greed to overpower our morals, we have fallen for the financial offerings to silence our conscience and to cloud our vision and understanding, many have cowered with controlled pens, before the twisting of the facts by the financial powerhouses.
Only because of the Media blockage of the meetings and the topics discussed at these meetings has the world allowed in their ignorance, the New world order to become more or less a COUP D'ETAT.
The media has failed to stand up for the truth.
Yet this is as much your Earth to live on, as equally as the animals, plants, insects and every other human being from any other nation, whatever the colour, creed, religion or faith.
PART ONE OF THREE.
NOW IS THE TIME TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL LIFE
THINK AGAIN…..
THINK DIFFERENTLY.
DAVID BOYLE.
A CITIZEN OF EARTH & HUMAN BEING WHO CARES FOR ALL LIFE
DAVID H BOYLE
CENTRAL PROMENADE
BLACKPOOL – ENGLAND
FY1 5AA
(+44) 01253 297522
[email protected]
WHAT ARE WE DOING?
WHERE IS LIBERTY? WHERE IS FREEDOM?
WHERE IS JUSTICE? WHERE IS TRUTH?
Not in the United States of America (land of the free).
Not in the United Kingdom (Land of Hope and Glory).
Not in the Western World.
Not in the Third world.
A great Shadow of fear has been drawn over the whole world and we have all lost our freedom.
No individual in the western world dare to speak out against the atrocity recently inflicted on the people of Afghanistan (never mind anyone from a third world country).
We have been told we are either for them or against them, there is no neutrality, no sitting on the fence and no alternative view to be held.
So most dare not speak for fear of being branded on the side of the terrorists.
Where is our free will? Where is our freedom to think how we choose?
It has all gone to the global dictators of the war against terrorism.
If we speak out against this wholesale destruction, we are to be classed as terrorists.
Since the atrocity of the 11th of September, on a daily basis every American Citizen has been subjected to wave after wave of fear, of threats from anthrax, of suicide bombers, a million people are gearing up to invade and destroy America with terrorism. Who Says this? The White House of course, (people who live in fear do not think straight, are easily controlled and are more ready to except what they are told without question).
Russia has tried to take Afghanistan and has suffered great casualties in the last three decades.
Why do they want to own this remote, desolate land?
The answer is very simple indeed, for Afghanistan, one of the undeveloped countries of the world is rich in mineral and ore deposits, the very raw materials, which make the wealth and power of the multinational companies, which control the world.
The world today is running out of these minerals and raw material resources and within the next 50 years the supply will be exhausted, so this fact alone makes Afghanistan one of the most important pawns in the game of world domination which is played by the multinational companies and the controlling Cabal.
Russia could not subdue her by normal military means and America could not control her with money (for she did not have a national debt).
It is the people who control the Countries debts, these are the people who today control the world, it is they who decide who is to become the next Prime Minster or President, any country which does not conform does not receive the money to survive.
We the most advanced nations in the world, using the most advanced
technology waged a war against terrorism, we believed what we were told (that the perpetrators of the 11th of September were supported by the government of Afghanistan), forces were mobilized and sides within Afghanistan were taken. Defense lines were drawn up and the protectors of the government took to the trenches in there thousands to defend their country from the invaders (this is us). The Unites States backed by the United Kingdom. WE invaded their country.
Then it started, massive bombings from miles high, gigantic explosions shook our Mother Earth as modern death rained down on the defenders of their faith in their own Country.
They had no means to fight back and no weapons to reach the planes,
they had nowhere to go, their movements were being observed from satellites and lookouts, only death and destruction was all around. There was no chance to surrender, only to die.
This is not war, it is certainly not humane, this is murder and genocide!
The few that survived were rounded up and taken to camps where the genocide continued, these prisoners were wiped out to the last man.
The few who were captured with witnesses present were sent to a destination away from the press, where they could not be interviewed, where they could be kept isolated from all humane treatment. No telephone calls to relations, no solicitors to speak too, no journalists to tell their story, no rights whatsoever. Were these men and women practicing terrorists? No! Did many if any ever leave Afghanistan? No!
This genocide has not been initiated by some third world despotic dictator but by the leader of the free world (black is white & white is black) Fraternity, Liberty and Equality (hardly!).
The terrorists who caused the planes to crash on the 11th of September, died in the planes. Not these poor helpless, near stone-age people, who just happen to live on land that is mineral rich.
Let us look at what else has happened - from a different point of view.
On the 11th of September before the planes hit the twin towers Wall Street had already crashed to its lowest figure for a considerable time. The reality of the Stock Market double-dealings was beginning to come to light.
The wave of Sympathy from all over the globe cushioned the effect on the worlds markets (people were prepared to give, in their concern for the catastrophe).
So now we stand back and look at what has happened, and how things actually are. America has been hit by a Catastrophe, 3000 dead.
The incredible reaction destroyed the Taliban and America now controls, No, OWNS Afghanistan with no opposition, no potential guerrillas and all possible future opposition now murdered, (without any of the problems which Russia had experienced). America’s long term might has been assured as the worlds leading nation, with most reserves of ores and minerals. No one dare speak against the might of the only superpower, a major financial crisis has been averted and it only cost 3000 lives.
So who has gained? Certainly not Bin Laden and certainly not the Taliban.
Only America and the controlling cabal has gained, the whole world has lost its freedom. The anti terrorism laws in the U.K were rushed through while we were all watching football or celebrating the Queens Jubilee. They have been classed as illegal; they have taken our freedom away! The same has happened in the U S A.
So what will happen next?
Running out of Oil? Sadam’s got plenty; unfortunately he doesn’t have a national debt so we cannot get it by financing them.
How can we get hold of it? Yes! I’ve got it, lets play the same card, lets call him a terrorist and say he is making weapons of mass destruction. No one can check this can they? The UN inspectors are our men, so lets do it.
We can instill fear in the World with our military might while we get exactly what we want.
This is what is really going on now.
A NOTE FOR THE EDITOR
You are just as responsible for this mass death and destruction as the actual perpetrators, for years your papers have not printed the truth of these events.
You have printed total and utter lies as facts, visits by your own proprietors and controllers to the meetings of the Global elites have not been published, we have allowed our greed to overpower our morals, we have fallen for the financial offerings to silence our conscience and to cloud our vision and understanding, many have cowered with controlled pens, before the twisting of the facts by the financial powerhouses.
Only because of the Media blockage of the meetings and the topics discussed at these meetings has the world allowed in their ignorance, the New world order to become more or less a COUP D'ETAT.
The media has failed to stand up for the truth.
Yet this is as much your Earth to live on, as equally as the animals, plants, insects and every other human being from any other nation, whatever the colour, creed, religion or faith.
PART ONE OF THREE.
NOW IS THE TIME TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL LIFE
THINK AGAIN…..
THINK DIFFERENTLY.
DAVID BOYLE.
A CITIZEN OF EARTH & HUMAN BEING WHO CARES FOR ALL LIFE
DAVID H BOYLE
CENTRAL PROMENADE
BLACKPOOL – ENGLAND
FY1 5AA
(+44) 01253 297522
[email protected]
Trần Anh Dũng
(TranAnhDzung)
New Member
Oh, I should've been more specific. America is goin to a war with Iraq. And then, it is likely that it will deal with north Korea, who is threatening the world with its nuclear arsenal for food aid. so, wat's yor opinion? You think this war is nasty or not?
just vote!
just vote!
I think what Jimmy Carter (who won last year's Nobel Peace Prize) said in his acceptance speech was quite rational:Đức s article đã viết:
- War was, is, and will never be humane!Jimmy Carter đã viết:
I, too, have noticed a wave of pseudo-patriotism in the US (ha! through the Internet, that is : ) since the September 11th attack. If people speak out against war, they are automatically branded as siding with terrorists, or anti-American. Sad that sophisticated people can only shake their heads in silence and do nothing against the situation (except write passionate internet articles for a meager audience).
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Trần Anh Dũng
(TranAnhDzung)
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"If people speak out against war, they are automatically branded as siding with terrorists, or anti-American."
Duh!
How the hell could someone possibly get that idea? Just because you donnot support the war, you do not want to see your children being killed on some barren places like Iraq, just because you love peace, dan't mean you side with the terrorists or betray your country.
There are tens of thousands of Americans opposed to the upcoming war between Iraq and US. One old lady even has a poster in front of her house saying: Peace Is Patriotic, War Is Madness. And there are, like millions more people on earth making demonstrations against tha war, they're terrorists?
I don't know... my reasons are not very strong but everyone just gotta see how nonsense that statement she made is. What site did she get the info from nyways?
By the way, just vote! how come people are not voting???? Is this the best hn-ams students can do? How opinionless.
Duh!
How the hell could someone possibly get that idea? Just because you donnot support the war, you do not want to see your children being killed on some barren places like Iraq, just because you love peace, dan't mean you side with the terrorists or betray your country.
There are tens of thousands of Americans opposed to the upcoming war between Iraq and US. One old lady even has a poster in front of her house saying: Peace Is Patriotic, War Is Madness. And there are, like millions more people on earth making demonstrations against tha war, they're terrorists?
I don't know... my reasons are not very strong but everyone just gotta see how nonsense that statement she made is. What site did she get the info from nyways?
By the way, just vote! how come people are not voting???? Is this the best hn-ams students can do? How opinionless.
Oh my gosh, how do I break it to you!? .. Please re-read my post + I'll be willing to discuss any part of it if you have still not got the message.
Did you not understand what Bush meant w/ 'You are either with us or against us?'. I think he made it pretty clear that (he considers) anyone who doesn't support his war is against America, against the civilized world. Now, the people who follow Bush blindly + unconditionally far outnumber those who have kept their minds. Evidence is the high popularity rating (?) that he enjoys. Mind you I'm talking about the US, not the entire world.
Did you not understand what Bush meant w/ 'You are either with us or against us?'. I think he made it pretty clear that (he considers) anyone who doesn't support his war is against America, against the civilized world. Now, the people who follow Bush blindly + unconditionally far outnumber those who have kept their minds. Evidence is the high popularity rating (?) that he enjoys. Mind you I'm talking about the US, not the entire world.
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Lê Diệu Linh
(dieulinhle)
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To be honest, I don't care much about that war, as long as our nation is not foolishly involved.
My concern is just that whether or not that ass ( G.Bush) may win again in the next election, considering his costly self-ad campaign aimed at bribing his already well-off voters (i.e. The dividend tax cut plan ).
Btw, I don't think that the States may want to be further in another war other than Iraq. Although Bush is stupid enough to think that a war may make up for his lack in presidential skill :mrgreen: , two may be a little bit too much for him to manage :mrgreen:
My concern is just that whether or not that ass ( G.Bush) may win again in the next election, considering his costly self-ad campaign aimed at bribing his already well-off voters (i.e. The dividend tax cut plan ).
Btw, I don't think that the States may want to be further in another war other than Iraq. Although Bush is stupid enough to think that a war may make up for his lack in presidential skill :mrgreen: , two may be a little bit too much for him to manage :mrgreen:
Nguyễn Đức
(Vicini)
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Nhung: "Sad that sophisticated people can only shake their heads in silence and do nothing against the situation (except write passionate internet articles for a meager audience)."
I do think that those people DID do things to prevent the war but I don't think the things that they did will help much. I myself joined a rally against the war in my school when Mr. Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary of the President visited my school and made a speech.
There was a big rally in Washington, D.C. also and I think millions of people were there.
I do think that those people DID do things to prevent the war but I don't think the things that they did will help much. I myself joined a rally against the war in my school when Mr. Ari Fleischer, Press Secretary of the President visited my school and made a speech.
There was a big rally in Washington, D.C. also and I think millions of people were there.
Trần Anh Dũng
(TranAnhDzung)
New Member
Aww man... Jeezz zuz kraiz I just want you guys to vote....
Pleeeez vote. What da hell's that poll up there for?
Aight, I think this topic is just way over our head. How bout you guys come up with something more fun eh? And just vote plz, no comments.
Pleeeez vote. What da hell's that poll up there for?
Aight, I think this topic is just way over our head. How bout you guys come up with something more fun eh? And just vote plz, no comments.